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January 29, 2017 at 8:39 pm in reply to: Malone and Sullivan families of St. Johns, Torbay and Logy Bay #4563
Brenda Young
Participant6 Nov 1845 Sullivan, Patrick Malone, Anastasia J. Forrestal William Bulger Ellen McDonald St. John’s
Kathy, Here is the marriage records for Patrick Sullivan and Anastasia Malone from Nl Gen web The baptisms are not yet posted. I will try to find something in my files. I researched the Humphrey Sullivan Bridget ? from 1800 so may have picked up something of your family along the way. I do not believe your Patrick Sullivan is connected to my Sullivan family but will check and see.
Take care
BrendaBrenda Young
ParticipantHello everyone. I am Brenda Leahey Young-my mother was Marjorie Browne grandfather Bill Browne-his mother was Bridget O’Reilly born 1861 (a twin of Alice) and her parents were Garrett Riely and Margaret Leonard of St Leonard. My grandfather said that Garrett had two siblings that he was certain of -Margaret Riely married to Humphrey Sullivan (they eventually ended up in Cambridge) and William Riely married to Margaret Collins-he wrote it down-I will find.
I have discovered that there is two baptism records at Argentia (online) 1835 and 1837. Shows births of Margaret Riely to William Riely and Margaret Whelan. 1837 shows William Riely and Bridget Whelan.
I have the US death certificate for Margaret Riely Sullivan and her parents are listed as William Riely and Bridget Whelan.
They would make up double first cousins to John Riely (1780-1863) native of Placentia, and Mary Whelan (1790-1873) native of Placentia. Two brothers marrying two sisters. Perhaps once removed in the case of William Rielly who died in 1911. I correspond with this William Rielly family -they have the Bonia history as part of their tree. William Rielly and Sarah Bonia took care of Archbishop Roche when he was a child and his mother was ill. Mary Rielly died when he and his brother John were young. Edward Roche their father also died when they were young.I believe the Mary Whelan info came from Leo Rielly in the US-he provided the original tree for John and Mary Rielly, which has been supported by the nine families and baptism/ burial records.
I went through some earlier records and found the Reily name in Placentia about 1750-60. About 20 years before John Rielly’s birth. Both he and his wife were recorded in their obits as native to Placentia. The list of persons taking oaths in 1786 to Prince William included a number of Rielly and Whelan men (lots of spellings). The Collins family was much earlier around 1720.
Anite O’Keefe of Placentia has located some lists and documents. One was about 1820- a legal document that shows John Rielly in a bit of trouble for having too many catholics in his establishment? And in the 1830-40s there were documents listing many of the Placentia men sharing salvage rights? and money from the sale of oil. They are on Ancestry. I also have a land sale between William Rielly selling a property and business to Roger Sweetman in October 1830. He describes that land as being next to John Rielly’s land.
And I have done DNA tests and had strong matches with the Sandy Point family-several of their family and ours have matches.
I have met Sister Carmel Wyse who worked in Gander for many years- a brilliant woman. And her nephew Jim.
So it looks like we have another line-Patrick, William and John? And I agree there must be a Garret line.
Our relatives in Cambridge had a meeting with Archbishop Roche and had an account of how the Rielly family arrived in Placentia. It was vague but suggested four or five brothers arrived on their own boat.
They always seemed well educated by the work they were involved in.
Will post again with the land transaction. Give me a few days and I will find the document from Leo Rielly re John/Mary tree.
Take care
Brenda YoungBrenda Young
ParticipantJoe Brazil We had some new findings lately.
John O’Reilly died in 1863 born in 1780 in Placentia (per newspaper accounts). He had nine children. He married Mary Whelan who was born in 1790 in Placentia-died 1873. Their headstone was at Mount Carmel and a pic of it has been posted.
My grandfather mentioned that his mother Bridget O’Reilly 1860-1943 and a grandchild of John were double first cousins. He also said that Garrett O’Reilly, Margaret O’Reilly who married Humphrey Sullivan, and William O’Reilly who married Margaret Collins were siblings.It was William O’Reilly 1835-1911 who was the double first cousin. He died in Cambridge, Mass in 1911. My grandfather kept in touch with the family til his death in 1989.
William was a brother of Thomas the Magistrate and Mary who married Edward Roche-mother of the Archbishop.His father was John O’reilly lighthousekeeper at Cape St Mary’s. This John was son of John 1780-1863.
The parents of Garrett, Margaret O’Reilly Sullivan and William O’Reilly were William O’Reilly and Bridget Whelan. This information appeared on Margaret Sullivan’s death certificate in Mass. in 1909 that I found recently. It confirmed my grandfather’s story. Hope this helps.
Brenda Young Logy Bay
The children of John O’Reilly and Mary Whelan was provided by Leo O’Reilly from the US. The list is on Family tree maker but needs to be adjusted for the three children who belong to William and Bridget.
There is a lovely obit for William O’Reilly in the Cambridge library archives
Death of Captain O’Reilly.Captain William O’Reilly, for a long time a resident of East Cambridge, died on Tuesday at the home of his daughter, Mrs. E. J. Dorney, on Webster avenue, Somerville. He had been In poor health for the past seven months and for several weeks had been confined to his bed. Death was due to old age. Captain O’Reilly was a native of Plaeentia, Nawfoundland. He came to this country 14 years ago and the best part of this time he has been a resident of this city. He had a host of friends here, as well as in Somerville, which was entirely in keeping with his kindly nature. Indeed, he had a kind word for everyone. Tho deceased had been one of the leading fish merchants of Newfoundland, being known from one end of the country to the other. Many persons remember the prosecution of the Bait Act In Newfoundland. At that time Captain O’Reilly was one of the leaders in the fishing Industry there, and the Newfoundland government, In Its efforts to enforce the law and bar the French from gaining access to the shores, met with much At one time in particular, Captain O’Reilly, while out In his little fishing vessel, the “Hero,” was eepled by the revenue cutter “Fiona,” which bore down upon him. Equal to the emergency, Captain O’Reilly immediately made sail and In the face of a northeast gale outstripped the revenue cutter and was soon safely under the French flag. Those who knew him well always rejoiced In the fact that he was newer caught napping. Captain O’Reilly was a charter member In the Star of the Sea Society and kept his membership therein for 65 years. He ls survived by one son, Patrick O’Reilly, who is employed by the city of Cambridge, and three daughters, Mrs. E. J. Dorney and Mrs. W. Wlllworth, of Somerville, and Mrs Henry T. Green, of Cambridge. Funeral services took place on Thursday morning at St. Joseph’s Church, Union square, Somerville, and tho burial was In St. Paul’s Cemetery, Arlington.
Brenda Young
ParticipantI believe Kathleen Thomspson Sullivan is in my family. She married Michael S Sullivan son of Patrick Sullivan JP and Selina Laura Browne of St. Leonard’s St. Kyrans PB. RC May 3 1903-see Family Search files. She was 22 and Presbyterian. He was an engineer, worked for the Reid Co, and became an Member of the government.
They had two children-Arthur Sullivan-an early airplane pilot in Newfoundland who died in June 1932, and a daughter Vera who relocated to England after the death of Michael Sullivan about 1928 and Arthur in 1932. I believe Vera married twice. Kathleen died, I believe, in England but I do not yet have the date.Brenda Young
ParticipantHello Maurice, Eliz and Geraldine,
Liz is correct in her information about Captain John Kearney and Mary Field’s children. His brothers were Michael Kearney married Bridget Blackler, James Kearney-1816-1840, Richard Kearney, and Catherine Kearney married William Armstrong.
Mary Ann Field was born in 1815 in Torbay and her parents were Richard Field and Margaret Walsh. It appears that Richard Field was a shipowner according to MHA. Richard Field and Margaret Walsh had several other children including a Nathaniel, Richard and Margaret Louise? Mary Ann Field Kearney died around 1856 and her will is listed at NGB. Captain John Kearney who was lost with his ship in 1852, had parents Michael Kearney and mother Mary(she is buried at Belvedere cemetery) an uncle John Kearney 1773-1853, and his grandparents were John and Elizabeth Kearney according to the Ferryland census of 1800. The two books published recently by Calvin Evans? on the Master Shipbuilders of Newfoundland give some history of the Kearney family with the help of Anne Kearney Guigne. An interesting note in the Book of Newfoundland (online at MUN-Michael Keearney) and on the back cover of an LP put out in the 1970’s by Kevin Jardine (great grandson? of Captain John Kearney) indicates that Michael Kearney’s mother was descendant of John Condon? sp who was a teacher who arrived with the George Calvert settlement. I have not been able to connect the dots on that information. Keep in touch-an interesting family to research.
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