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Leslie Switzer.
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August 17, 2022 at 8:20 am #6303
Sheldon Goudie
ParticipantMy name is Sheldon Goudie, I’m trying to trace my family name as I believe they came from Labrador in the 1880s to work the mines of Tilt Cove and Little Bay. I have both John Goudie, my GGG Grandfather, his wife Eliza and his brother Joseph working at Little Bay in the 1880s. Joseph was involved in a mining accident that severely burnt him and he died from those injuries. It is my belief that they originally came from Labrador as I have ruled out any connection to the Goudie Families of Lower Island Cove from that time period. Any information would be greatly appreciated, thank you.
August 31, 2022 at 11:08 pm #6310Aiden Holden
ParticipantJohn Goudie (1798-abt 1866-68) was the first Goudie in Labrador. He and his family arrived at North West River about 1844 not long after the Hudson Bay Company post was established there in 1836. They came from Fort Chimo at which post he had been serving since arriving there from Moose Factory with his wife and three children in September 1835. He left the Company’s service in 1849 and settled at Traverspine on the Grand River. His spouse was a Cree woman given the name Lousia. Their known children were: William, Donald, John (Jock), Joseph, Mary and Agnes.
Sheldon, do you have your tree available online. If I saw your Goudie line back far enough I might be able to help. Although I don’t know of a line spreading from Labrador to Newfoundland it is quite possible. AidenSeptember 7, 2022 at 5:52 pm #6315Sheldon Goudie
ParticipantThank you Aiden for your response. I base my information on years of trying to make a connection to the Goudies with family lines leading back to the Lower Island Cove area of the island. These families have been extensively researched with branches in many parts of Central and North Eastern Newfoundland. I myself grew up in Notre Dame Bay and my grandfather was born in Pilleys Island. It’s my understanding that thats where his mother and father, William and Lily Ann, and Grandparents John and Eliza, moved rrom Little Bay in the late 1800s after the mine there starting to slow down. I’ve received information from Herb Goudie and his family who had researched the LIC group back to the 1700s and they can find no connection for my family anywhere within those documents. Herb deduced from this that my ancestors are a separate Goudie branch that split from the Labrador line. And to add to that, my own family tree research leads me to a dead end whenever I try to connect with known Goudie families and that have listed family trees in the Notre Dame Bay area. I should also mention that my uncles always claimed that we had a connection to indigenous ancestry which makes the Labrador route more plausible for me in terms of where to look. Fyi, I do have a family tree on Family Search and you are welcomed to viewing it if you can find a way to do that. I’m not quite sure how to link you to it. And again thank you for your time and any information would be a plus!
September 19, 2022 at 3:46 pm #6325Aiden Holden
ParticipantSheldon I know of another line of Goudies in Labrador whose family named morphed from Gaudin. They start with George Gaudin bap. Dec 4, 1831 at St. Peter’s Parish, Jersey, Channel Islands. He married Emily Julia Dumaresq whose father also came from Jersy. George left Jersey about 1850 and worked for the De Quetteville Bros. business in Blanc Sablon, Labrador. Some of their children born from 1860 to 1868 became known as, or adopted, the Goudie name. Their known children were: Susanne, Elizabeth Jane, George Frederick, Alice and Amelia Melvina. All of them were born along the Straits coast of Labrador.
September 22, 2022 at 7:18 am #6326Sheldon Goudie
ParticipantThanks for that information Aiden, I wasn’t thinking of that possibility. I was aware just the same that Gaudin had morphed into Goudie in several other locales throughout Eastern Canada and the Eastern seaboard of the US. In the meantime, I’ve been pouring over a bunch of old Gedcom files sent to me from Herb Goudie’s family in the St. John’s area. Herb’s family line leads back to the Lower Island Cove Goudies, so his family figured I would have more use for them as my family weren’t connected to his ancestors. These files were generated back in the late 1990s through the early 2000s. And they had done a lot of research through various church and government records but they never got back further than Dec 14. 1859. That’s the year my GGG Grandfather John William Goudie was born. He married Eliza Coombs at LIttle Bay in 1888, but they had been together from at least 1881 when Lily Ann, (my GG Grandmother), their first child was born when John was a miner at Bett’s Cove mines. I should note that John had a brother named Joseph, who I had mentioned in my original post, died in a mining accident at Little Bay in February of 1886 at the age of 33. It seems he was a little older than John and was born in 1853; but again his place of birth isn’t known either. All throughout those files Herb and the other researchers deduce that this family originated outside of the Island before the family name came from Scotland. Herb and a lady named Gale Little, who had done much of the research, were fairly convinced that they had come to Newfoundland from Scotland via Labrador. But I have never been able to make that Labrador connection. The bigger problem is I can’t connect them to any other area either. I know that it is highly unlikely that my ancestors are related to the Goudie line that settled Lower Island Cove and area. But I will keep turning stones until I figure this thing out…and I will definitely follow the Gaudin possibility as well. Thanks again Aiden.
September 22, 2022 at 12:09 pm #6329Aiden Holden
ParticipantThanks for the new information. Sheldon please send me an email message to lkasn36@yahoo.com
AidenAugust 6, 2023 at 12:51 am #6605Leslie Switzer
ParticipantHi. My mother is Stella Goudie. She’s 95 years old and she’s the daughter of James William Goudie from Pilley’s Island, who was the son of John Goudie. She was born in Grand Falls, where her father worked for the paper mill. I don’t have any information farther back than this, unfortunately. My mother says that family history was never really discussed much in her family. But there has always been a rumour that there was Cree in our family. Written above just confirmed that for me. So Sheldon, we have the same great-great grandparents. I too used to correspond with Herb Goudie, and we determined that our lines are not connected with his.
August 6, 2023 at 11:05 am #6606Aiden Holden
ParticipantThe John Goudie who married the Cree woman was baptized 27 Aug 1798 at Orphir, Orkney, Scotland, United Kingdom, son of John Goudie (born abt 1774) and Isabel Slettar.
Among their children was John known as “Jock” born about 1834 at Moose Factory, Ontario, Canada. “Jock” married Elizabeth Blake (1840-1920), daughter of John Blake and Sarah Phippard.
“Jock” and Elizabeth probably had several children but I only know of George Goudie born about 1877 at Traverspine, Labrador.
It is possible “Jock” or one of his brothers had children who left Labrador. “Jock” died at Traverspine 15 Dec 1901.
Leslie SWitzer, it might help to talk to Stella to see if she can loosen any memories or clues.
August 6, 2023 at 11:48 am #6607Leslie Switzer
ParticipantThank you very much.
I live with my mother, but unfortunately she knows very little about her family. She says it simply wasn’t mentioned much.
I’ve checked any notes that I had written down years ago while trying to research my family. I don’t know how accurate they are. My notes say that John William was actually William John, but that he went by John. He was born on 14 Dec 1859 and died 19 Feb 1908. He married Eliza Coombs, born in Round Harbour on 15 Feb 1860 and died in Grand Falls in 1956. Father was Robert Coombs. Eliza remarried to Robert Oldford. They were buried in Grand Falls.
My mother tried to remember her father’s siblings and came up with James William (my grandfather), Clara Isabel, George, Emma, Lucy Maud and Louisa.
I don’t know much at all after my Mom’s Dad’s family. But that’s what I have in my notes.
August 6, 2023 at 12:11 pm #6608Leslie Switzer
ParticipantHmm. Now she remembers and Aunt Lil (Lillian), who married William Goudie. I have a Lillian Goudie in my notes with the date of 4 Jul 1889, but I’m not sure what that relates to. She’s 95 and sometimes things get a little jumbled for her. I hope there are some leads there anyway.
August 6, 2023 at 12:15 pm #6609Leslie Switzer
ParticipantSorry, me again. I just found a handwritten note that I’d put into my family binder.
Lily Ann Goudie, born to John and Eliza (Coombs), 4-Jul 1881, Little Bay. Baptized 12 Apr 1890.
Louisa Goudie, born to John and Eliza 31 Jun 1888, Little Bay, baptized 20 Sep 1888.
Eliza Coombs’ parents were Robert Coombs and Rebecca Smith. Louisa Goudie died 1 Apr 1889, Little Bay.
(Vital Statistics, Volume 91. (Baptisms 1865-1891), Methodist Parish, Little Bay Islands Notre Dame Bay).
August 6, 2023 at 12:27 pm #6610Aiden Holden
ParticipantNo problem. That’s great if you stimulate her memory; hopefully, she might remember some stories her father told her over the years.
She mentioned George Goudie who was a brother to her father. That could be a clue because I know of a George Goudie born to “Jock” about 1877 – he was listed as single and 34 living with his widowed mother Elizabeth (Blake) Goudie on the 1911 census for Rigolet, Labrador. See if she can remember any story about her uncle George Goudie. Could they be the same person? Were there any stories of Labrador?August 6, 2023 at 12:35 pm #6611Leslie Switzer
ParticipantI’m not familiar with that George Goudie, except for his name. I had a mysterious Uncle George who went missing in the 1960s. He must have been named after his Uncle George.
A few years ago, I found the obituary for the wife of my Uncle George, so I was able to talk to my Mom’s grand-nephew who lives in Australia and we finally solved the family mystery. It turns out that George was a welder who had been recruited to Australia after WWII and he died from a heart attack when he was only 43 or 44 years old.
August 6, 2023 at 12:39 pm #6612Aiden Holden
ParticipantHopefully, your mom might be able to dredge up some bits of information about George, such as could he have been her father’s youngest sibling?
Side note: A woman named Mary Louisa Goudie married John James Montague 26 Sep 1878. She died 15 Aug 1894 and her death record states she was age 45, which would mean she was born about 1849.
August 6, 2023 at 12:42 pm #6613Aiden Holden
ParticipantLeslie, you really should consider having your mom’s DNA done at Ancesty! I had mine done. They use a little saliva … it’s simple.
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